The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 9.0305 [2] From: Charlie MitchellDate: Thursday, 02 Apr 1998 08:13:02 -0700 Subject: Tempest [3] From: Jennifer Jones Date: Thursday, 2 Apr 1998 10:58:07 EST Subject: The Tempest [4] From: Billy Houck Date: Thursday, 2 Apr 1998 11:08:32 EST Subject: Re: SHK 9.0297 Re: The Tempest [5] From: Dana Spradley Date: Thursday, 2 Apr 1998 09:16:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: SHK 9.0297 Re: The Tempest [6] From: Kristen McDermott Date: Thursday, 02 Apr 1998 12:45:08 -0500 Subject: Re: SHK 9.0295 Q: The Tempest [7] From: Stuart Manger Date: Friday, 3 Apr 1998 00:22:34 +0100 Subject: The Tempest [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charlie Mitchell Date: Thursday, 02 Apr 1998 08:13:02 -0700 Subject: Tempest Here's an opening volley for the Tempest. Where is the Captain of the ship in the first scene? We have a curt and beleaguered Boatswain and a Master (who disappears almost immediately) but no Captain. Later, are we to assume that there was no Captain because Prospero was symbolically fulfilling that role? Is the Duke the Captain? If he is, he doesn't have much interest in the job. Is this Shakespeare's way of painting a society as the ship of state with no one at the helm (which an audience in a port town would recognize immediately), or am I missing some nuance of early modern maritime hierarchy? Charlie Mitchell [3]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jennifer Jones Date: Thursday, 2 Apr 1998 10:58:07 EST Subject: The Tempest I'm interested in modern interpretations of 'The Tempest', with special focus on Prospero/Caliban in respect to humanity, knowledge and death. Also, if anyone has worked with or seen a modern film/production using Tempest itself as a source story, or is planning to show such a production, I would love to here from you. Please send a CC all messages to my mailbox as well as the group. --Thank-you! [4]------------------------------------------------------------- What strikes me about the Tempest is not the 20th century revisionist view that tells us that colonialism is bad, but the fact that this is the only Shakespeare play whose climax is forgiveness. Billy Houck [5]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dana Spradley Date: Thursday, 2 Apr 1998 09:16:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: SHK 9.0297 Re: The Tempest Judging by Scott's reply, it doesn't seem that the "colonialist imperative" thing has died down yet, Dale. When I used to teach The Tempest I tried to move away from it in the direction of political allegory - the island as a reduced representation of England, getting this across to students on the analogy of Gilligan's Island (okay, so I'm not above a little crass humor myself). Looked at in this light, the question of Prospero's purported "god-like control" and actual lack of it, Lisa, seemed to me to have something to do with an oblique critique or fantastical subversion of the divine right of kings. It's like a little thought experiment: what if kings as god's representative on earth actually *did* have some measure of godlike power. Wouldn't that make them something like Prospero is in the play? And even given his limitations, if kings do have similar power, shouldn't they be able to control events much more than they actually seem to be able to do? But on the other hand, if this is a valid analogy of divine right, then why does it look so much like its reverse - demonology? Well, put so baldly and a distance of some years from my active engagement in the thesis, it may look like trumpery at first glance. But there are some fairly explitic approaches to political theorizing in it - for example, the utopian "order all things by contraries" speech. And I'm assuming it operates at the level of the dreamlike symbolic economy on which ideology (which itself seems mere trumpery when exposed to rational scrutiny, since it by definition has no basis in reality) relies for support. Does anyone else think approach bears looking into? [6]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kristen McDermott Date: Thursday, 02 Apr 1998 12:45:08 -0500 Subject: Re: SHK 9.0295 Q: The Tempest Yes, please continue the Tempest line -- I teach Shakespeare at Spelman College, a Historically Black Institution for women, and have to struggle with a unique phenomenon here- The Tempest is taught to all first-year students as part of an interdisciplinary core course called "The African Diaspora and the World." The play is taught within the post-colonial Caribbean context, but unfortunately *only* within that context, as most teachers of this course come from non-English disciplines. Thus, when our majors arrive in the (required) Shakespeare course, they are convinced that the *only* possible interpretation of *The Tempest* is the imperialist/colonialist one. Thus, I lean more heavily on the Prospero-as-stage-manager line than I would normally like to, for balance. We were fortunate this semester to have a visit from Erroll Hill, Trinadadian author of "Shakespeare in Sable" and a product of the Royal Academy, who pretended gentle astonishment at the students' suggestion that Caliban was "black"-a pedagogical performance some of my students are less likely to accept when it comes from an obviously Anglo teacher. All this said, I would never teach Shakespeare without The Tempest, and especially not here at Spelman. I'd like to hear from other professors who hear a lot of Prospero-as-European-oppressor interpretations from their students. Kris McDermott Spelman College, Atlanta, GA kmcdermo@spelman.edu [7]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Manger Date: Friday, 3 Apr 1998 00:22:34 +0100 Subject: The Tempest As I raised it, maybe I have to pick up and run with it? IMHO, Tempest is at the other end of the line that starts with Marlowe's Faustus. In F, Marlowe postulates the man, sophisticated, subtle. the polymath's polymath, who was over-dosing on that most Renaissance of all addictions- knowledge, the simple greed to know the cosmos, 'God's privetee' as Chaucer has it. He sees that through conventional means - the traditional trivium of the university's discipline matrix - he can proceed no further. yet he sees the heavens: he knows there is more. He knows that lurking just beyond his reach, but not his consciousness are new knowledge, new power, brave new worlds. He thinks. Then he is offered the price of that knowledge. Marlowe lets him take it, and then we watch him accelerate towards self-destruction, wracked by guilt, arrogant defiance, almost Promethean hubris (cf Frankenstein??), and blind terror in case what might be is, and God wil judge and destroy him in Hell for all eternity. A thumbnail sketch. Sorry for trivialising. Then, Propsero: does the typical Shakespearian sin - abdication in all but name - cf KL, R2, 'fantastical duke of dark corners' in M for M - BUT Gonzalo compensates him with ' as good a thing'. His books - the kind of books we may surmise that Faustus was presented with by Meph? For is Prospero's magic white, black or grey? Is Ariel his will writ in fire and creativity, or some enslaved principle of white magic that ultimately revolts and shows Prospero 'the rarer action' that is in 'virtue than in vengeance'? Propsero ends Act 4 at the zenith of the kind of absolute power that man has dreamt of since his arrival on earth. The kind of power that Faustus went to to Hell for? Prospero very nearly uses this power to destroy, very slowly, and very teasingly, his enemies. Are they the creatures he created by his dereliction of power in Milan? So whom is he really killing/ torturing? Is Shakespeare's suggestion that only when man abdicates from the search for power itself is he truly free, truly human, truly allowed back into Milan to rule - a tricksy paradox?- to provide a role model- as if saying: I, like you, grubbed for power and influence, but I learnt to renounce in order to be free, to find myself 'where no man was his own'? Ferdinanad and Miranda are his new world, but the three old men have something to say here too: Prospero, Alonso, Gonzalo. Watch Gonzalo - key player. and that wonderful first 80 lines of Act 5 - for me that's where the play happens. In fact, it's where an awful lot of Shakespeare suddenly resolves itself, isn't it? Scott Crozier, did you have stillness, or rumbling of earthquakes unfolding, or music or what to underscore this moment, in which Shakespeare suddenly turns his back on the tragedies, the late romances (partic Leontes?), and gets his hero to come out with open hands and a loving kiss to Ariel? I believe that Ariel is the one thing he will miss. Why? Ah, well.... that's another posting! Thanks for staying with this one. Stuart Manger
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